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HUKY 500 (T, J, SOLID, PERF) => Roasting => Topic started by: JavaBuzz on June 14, 2016, 09:59:01 AM

Title: New Roast Profile Database Site: www.artisancoffeealliance.com
Post by: JavaBuzz on June 14, 2016, 09:59:01 AM
For several months now I've been working on a website for uploading, searching, and sharing roast profiles (currently Artisan profiles), as I believe this could be very helpful to the roasting community.

When roasting a brand new bean, I've often thought it would be great to have a profile I could look at as a baseline for where to start (or to compare my roast ideas against), but it can often be difficult finding this info in the forums. This problem is one of the "gaps" I hope this site can fill.

I have now made the website open for registration (most of the features of the site require login to access):
https://www.artisancoffeealliance.com

Screenshots and links to example profiles can be found on the main page linked above.

It would be great to have some roasters join, share their roast profiles, help to build the roast database, and offer suggestions/recommendations. I'm hoping the site can be a good companion site to hukyforum.com (and others).

So far we just have a small number of searchable roast profiles, but the more people share their profiles, the better! I have been making pretty significant improvements to the website almost weekly. A few hukyforum.com members have also been helpful with early testing and recommendations (special thanks to Gregr, kenneroast, and hankua).
Title: Re: New Roast Profile Database Site: www.artisancoffeealliance.com
Post by: SusanJoM on June 14, 2016, 11:52:34 AM
Nice job.
 ;D

Susan
Title: Re: New Roast Profile Database Site: www.artisancoffeealliance.com
Post by: JavaBuzz on June 14, 2016, 12:11:24 PM
Thanks Susan!  :)

I probably have over 300 hours into the site at this point. It was a lot bigger endeavor than I thought it would be when I started, but it's been a good learning experience.

I wanted to announce it here officially first because this has been such a great community, and I believe it could be especially helpful to home roasters (especially if people post profiles).

Will see what happens. :)
Title: Re: New Roast Profile Database Site: www.artisancoffeealliance.com
Post by: LTB on June 14, 2016, 12:49:43 PM
Thanks for that idea !

I'll be glad to contribute, when I'll have some profils I'm proud about.

And I certainly find some inspiration there. Well, I'm juste talking, I have to look at the website :)
But anyway, thanks again.
Title: Re: New Roast Profile Database Site: www.artisancoffeealliance.com
Post by: SusanJoM on June 14, 2016, 12:55:22 PM
You could put a link in the Roasting Theory, Practice, Questions, Profiles section of the forum and sticky it. 

I signed up;  I have no profiles to add so I'll taking more than I can give ,, but I'm really pleased to see this sort of infrastructure work. 

You go JavaBuzz.

Title: Re: New Roast Profile Database Site: www.artisancoffeealliance.com
Post by: JavaBuzz on June 15, 2016, 02:08:46 PM
Good suggestion Susan. However, as far as I can tell, it looks like I don't have rights to sticky a forum topic. :)

FYI, when uploading a profile on the site, there is an optional field (Roast Rating) where a person can set an estimate on the quality of the roast. So if unsure of how good a roast is (which I'm guessing is many of us), one can always set the roast quality option to a lower amount (such as "Good" or "Fair") and/or put notes in the Roast Notes section.

There is also a Share Level option when uploading a roast, and this can be set to Private to hide the profile/upload from everyone but yourself. This is a good way to test out uploading one's first roast. If desired, the Share Level can be increased later on (in the Edit section) to share the profile with others.

Title: Re: New Roast Profile Database Site: www.artisancoffeealliance.com
Post by: SusanJoM on June 15, 2016, 03:25:33 PM
it looks like I don't have rights to sticky a forum topic. :)

Now you do.
Title: Re: New Roast Profile Database Site: www.artisancoffeealliance.com
Post by: e.p.alx on June 15, 2016, 05:40:41 PM
This is brilliant Javabuzz, the idea is one thing but that's hell of a project to see into fruition. My hat's off to u sir! (I don't actually have a hat but u get it..)
Title: Re: New Roast Profile Database Site: www.artisancoffeealliance.com
Post by: Wo ai Coffee on June 15, 2016, 07:32:49 PM
Thanks For the hard work Javabuzz . I am always looking for others profiles to compare and get ideas from. It can save a lot of trial beans knowing what profile to aim for for a certain regions beans.
Joel
Title: Re: New Roast Profile Database Site: www.artisancoffeealliance.com
Post by: JavaBuzz on June 17, 2016, 09:18:53 AM
Susan,

I added information on the website in Roasting Theory, Practice, Questions, Profiles. I then locked the topic, stickied it, and then added a link back to this post for discussion. I hope that makes sense to you.

Also, thank you e.p.alx, wo ai coffee, and LTB for the thank-you posts!
Title: Re: New Roast Profile Database Site: www.artisancoffeealliance.com
Post by: JavaBuzz on June 22, 2016, 01:06:19 PM
It's been about a week now since I announced this site, and I've seen a pretty good number of people sign up.

I am open to hearing suggestions, ideas, etc., so feel free to post your thoughts or PM me directly (whichever you think is most appropriate).

Also, big thank you to those who have uploaded a profile on the site! Being the site is so young, we can definitely use more profiles.
Title: Re: New Roast Profile Database Site: www.artisancoffeealliance.com
Post by: SusanJoM on June 27, 2016, 10:18:19 AM
Joel, can you give me/us a quick tutorial on how to see what is in the database?
I'm having a hard time getting past the first page where my only option appears (to my somewhat dim self) to only allow me to search for something or upload something.  I'm guessing I am missing something.   ???
Title: Re: New Roast Profile Database Site: www.artisancoffeealliance.com
Post by: JavaBuzz on June 27, 2016, 10:43:22 AM
Hi Susan,

If you login (must be logged in) and go to Roast Database > Search, you can then select the search criteria for the database.

Then, on the Search page, if you click the first search option/View button (for Newest Profiles), that will show the list of the newest profiles (which, being the site is new, should show most or all of the profiles).

Now you should see a list of uploaded profiles. Click on the profile you want to view and that will show you the graph and details for that profile.

I hope that makes sense. I want to eventually get some better documentation on the website, but everything takes time. :)
Title: Re: New Roast Profile Database Site: www.artisancoffeealliance.com
Post by: JavaBuzz on June 27, 2016, 10:49:30 AM
Currently, you can search the database by Newest Profiles, Country, Roast Level, Roaster Brand, and User (and I might add more in the future). However, a profile matching the criteria needs to have been previously uploaded to show results.

For example, currently if you search Country Cuba, no results will be returned because no Cuba profiles have been uploaded yet.

If anyone has additional questions, sees any quirks on the website, etc. feel free to let me know!
Title: Re: New Roast Profile Database Site: www.artisancoffeealliance.com
Post by: SusanJoM on June 27, 2016, 11:00:55 AM
Aha.  Thank you.  That makes it all make much more sense to me.  How about making a post/announcement at Johnny4lsu's North Forum site. 

http://northroasterforum.com/

I'll bet those members would contribute profiles, wouldn't they, Johnny?
Title: Re: New Roast Profile Database Site: www.artisancoffeealliance.com
Post by: JavaBuzz on June 27, 2016, 11:10:08 AM
I have announced the site at northroasterforum.com now (about a week after announcing it here). :)

There's been quite a few signups now, though not a large number of profile uploads (yet). The uploads have started trickling in though, so hopefully as people continue to roast new beans, we'll start to see even more.

I know the majority of contributions have been from people here at hukyforum.com, so that has been greatly appreciated!
Title: Re: New Roast Profile Database Site: www.artisancoffeealliance.com
Post by: Jayel on July 28, 2016, 08:58:25 AM
I tried to upload my most recent roast but the origin wasn't available to choose from (Puerto Rico). Is there an option to add an origin to the list to select from?
Title: Re: New Roast Profile Database Site: www.artisancoffeealliance.com
Post by: JavaBuzz on July 28, 2016, 02:02:37 PM
Users can't but I can try to add it in the next couple days. I'll let you know if it's added.

Thanks for trying to post a profile!
Title: Re: New Roast Profile Database Site: www.artisancoffeealliance.com
Post by: JavaBuzz on July 28, 2016, 05:45:36 PM
...And Puerto Rico is added...
Feel free to let me know if you have any questions.

Uploaded profiles on the site are greatly appreciated!
Title: Re: New Roast Profile Database Site: www.artisancoffeealliance.com
Post by: JavaBuzz on July 28, 2016, 05:51:46 PM
Just noticed that radraguirre (Rodrigo) recently uploaded his profile that won the 3rd roasting competition (hosted by Sweet Maria's). Thanks Rodrigo!

Link:
https://www.artisancoffeealliance.com/ACA/view.php?iroast=129-2016072816412201
Title: Re: New Roast Profile Database Site: www.artisancoffeealliance.com
Post by: Jayel on July 31, 2016, 07:24:13 AM
Thanks for adding Puerto Rico.
Title: Re: New Roast Profile Database Site: www.artisancoffeealliance.com
Post by: hankua on August 30, 2016, 02:30:44 PM
My SVG files are too big to upload, and the entry screen resets for any corrections.  >:(
Could be I'm running the image in Artisan at 130%?
Title: Re: New Roast Profile Database Site: www.artisancoffeealliance.com
Post by: JavaBuzz on August 30, 2016, 02:58:33 PM
Do you know what size the SVG is? I believe I set a fairly large max size, but I can probably up it more.

If an upload fails, if you click  the Web  browser's Back button (not the websites), it should retain most of the info you entered on the failed attempt, but you'd need to select the Country and Region again for the Submit to work, as those won't be properly set. This is one of the things I'd like to improve, but have had a lot less free time lately (and would take quite a bit more coding).
Title: Re: New Roast Profile Database Site: www.artisancoffeealliance.com
Post by: hankua on August 30, 2016, 04:12:19 PM
The SVG file is 723KB
Title: Re: New Roast Profile Database Site: www.artisancoffeealliance.com
Post by: JavaBuzz on August 30, 2016, 04:36:11 PM
Thanks! Profile should be uploadable with the SVG included now.

If you try and have issues, feel free to let me know, and I can look into it further.
Title: Re: New Roast Profile Database Site: www.artisancoffeealliance.com
Post by: hankua on August 30, 2016, 06:20:56 PM
Got it, thanks!
The region field is locking up the entry screen.
Title: Re: New Roast Profile Database Site: www.artisancoffeealliance.com
Post by: JavaBuzz on August 30, 2016, 06:30:52 PM
Oh yea, forgot to mention one step... If you have a failed upload and click Back on the web browser to try again, you actually have to
1) switch to a different country,
2) then switch back to the correct country,
3) then you can select the correct region and try Submit again (it should preserve the rest of the info).

Eventually I might fix that, but that's the current workaround. :)





Title: Re: New Roast Profile Database Site: www.artisancoffeealliance.com
Post by: hankua on August 30, 2016, 07:55:02 PM
Kind of figured it out, but Brazil was being difficult.  :o
Title: Re: New Roast Profile Database Site: www.artisancoffeealliance.com
Post by: JavaBuzz on August 30, 2016, 08:17:18 PM
Cool. Yea, thought it looked like you might have figured that workaround out already, but figured it was good to mention for others too, just in case.
Title: Re: New Roast Profile Database Site: www.artisancoffeealliance.com
Post by: JavaBuzz on August 31, 2016, 07:27:17 PM
Wow hankua, just noticed you were very busy posting various roast profiles on ACA.

Thanks a lot for taking the time to share all of those!
Title: Re: New Roast Profile Database Site: www.artisancoffeealliance.com
Post by: SusanJoM on March 22, 2017, 08:53:55 AM
Finally ....I've uploaded a profile of the Colombia Valle de Cauca that Chert distributed from HB last week.  It looks good to me....I'll know better in a few days.