Huky Forum
START HERE => Pre Purchase => Topic started by: Agrajag on April 17, 2016, 03:24:10 PM
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G'day, I've been doing a fair bit of research for my next roaster (currently using behmor) and the Huky is currently high up there, looks like a great machine.
Are there any fellow Aussies here? Just wondering what the shipping cost might be, and also if you got charged GST on the way in and what the process for that is.
Also, propane or butane? I've seen both around, not sure which is easiest/best?
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Yes - check out this https://www.hukyforum.com/index.php?action=googlemap
Welcome!
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Fellow Australian here. I am considering selling off my Huky and downsizing to something like a Quest M3. If you are interested in buying a second hand (1 year old) solid drum/fast motor Huky, message me and maybe we can arrange something.
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Hello and welcome,
I am just chiming in re the butane stove. As I struggled to find a lot of info about it.
Most people would go for propane for many reasons, but an easy one is that with propane you can go through loads of roasts before you have to refill it.
Myself, on the other hand, preferred the butane for safety reasons. At first, I was a skeptic, but after it arrived it works smoothly and nicely. I have done now about 4 roasts from 1 bottle of 250g, and I can feel there is some more gas in it. My roast batches were 250g each.
Good luck with your purchase.
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LordCthaeh I would be interested in your huky please PM me if you have made up your mind in parting with it.
Agrajag I had to pay GST And a customs broker this is the case if you are importing anything over 1000 AUD and shipping is included in the total price that said it is still worth it
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Thanks for the help guys, I have ended up being the owner of LordCthaeh's huky. Can't wait to get roasting. I have cast iron burner that will do for the moment but am probably going to order a propane IR stove from Mr Li that I can hook up to our standard 9kg LPG (bbq style) bottles. Has anyone gone down this route and what extra bits did you need to buy? Regulator/other fittings?
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Thanks for the help guys, I have ended up being the owner of LordCthaeh's huky. Can't wait to get roasting. I have cast iron burner that will do for the moment but am probably going to order a propane IR stove from Mr Li that I can hook up to our standard 9kg LPG (bbq style) bottles. Has anyone gone down this route and what extra bits did you need to buy? Regulator/other fittings?
You only need a hose and a standard low pressure regulator (somewhere in the 30-50 mBar region), if you order the IR burner with a barbed hose connector. If you want it to be more "professional", you can order e.g. a 1/4" connector instead and get a corresponding hose and regulator connection. That will make the whole line threaded instead of the "cheapish" barbed connection type. (I've done the cheap route for 1 1/2 years now, without any problems.)
About the regulator, in Sweden the standard ones are 30mBar which is just a tad on the low side for roasting full 500g charges. 40-50mBar is just perfect though. (I tried to find what the typical cheap bbq LPG regulator was rated at but it was difficult to find. :( I guess that e.g 37mBar is typical, which then is exactly what you need, i.e just that little bit above 30mbar.)
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Thanks for the info. It seems that all our standard gas appliance regulators are 2.75kPa which googling tells me is only 27mBar? Seems strange because this can handle a pretty big BBQ. Also I'm a bit confused about the figures because in the "huky specification reference" thread it says "Flow Capacity: 1.5 kg/hr" but my bbq regulator says 2kg/h. Will have to do a bit more research, all the regulators I can find online in Australia are 2.75kPa, not sure what the difference is between these figures.
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Well, unless you are planning to roast full 500gram charges all the time, that regulator should do the trick. Most of us here seem to have found that the "sweet spot" of the roaster is around 400grams anyhow and for that the 27-30 mBar regulator should do it. I did a couple of 400g roasts last week on my perforated drum setup and never got beyond 2.5 kPa.
For comparison I do use a "normal" 30mBar regulator for my BBQ which is a real gas guzzler. I used the same tank which I used for my Huky and the BBQ sucked it up in notime at all. Had I had those kind of burners under the Huky I guess I could have completed a roast in say 4 minutes total! (A 4 minute roast is a very bad idea, but just for reference.)
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Roasting 454 grams seems to be the "sweet spot" for my HUKY (perforated drum, slow motor)
I usually crank the gas higher (4+ kPa??) than my current gauge measures (3.75 kPa) for at least the first 4-5 minutes of the roast. When I chose that gauge I thought I would never use more gas than that. Silly me.
The message: don't limit what you can do by underestimating your future needs.
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Thanks. I'd like to see if it's possible to use the regulator that Mr Li provides, can someone who has that tell me exactly what kind of connection it has on the input side? In Australia we use POL connections to our LPG tanks, I can find a POL to 1/4 BSP adaptor (e.g. http://www.bcf.com.au/online-store/products/Primus-POL-to-1-4-BSP-Adaptor.aspx?pid=300512#Recommendations) but not much else. Also I assume he provides the hose to go to the stove from the regulator?
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That looks like what we use in the US and the Taiwan tank fitting although different is working for most of us. The regulator ships with a rubber hose and clamps. The advantage of the Taiwan regulator is it can deliver 4-5 kPa, which gives more flexibility with heat.
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Agrajag,
What Mr. Li sends works in Australia I had no issues with gas or the AC adapters he sent me hope this helps
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What Mr. Li sends works in Australia
Excellent, I had emailed him but wasn't that confident with his reply. I have emailed him to order it now. Cheers.
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No problem happy roasting! You will like the IR stove
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No problem happy roasting! You will like the IR stove
Certainly do! Did my 2nd huky roast tonight, 1st on the IR stove. I gave up waiting for the DC fan I ordered to arrive for my 2nd roast and decided to just use the built in manual handle thing. Went with a mix of instructions here about following the Rao curve and Mr Li's instructions. Pretty happy with the result!
(http://i.imgur.com/eRLQkTS.png)
250g brazil, ended with 213g. I was a bit slow starting up the stove at 1 minute so it dropped a bit further than I would've liked. I also didn't really know what the fan was going to do so pretty much just left it at about half open throughout the roast to remove a variable. Opened it a bit more at 1st crack. Turned the stove off for about a minute too. Probably stopped the roast a little early (for espresso) but I was getting a bit nervous towards the end :P, also roasting in low light and looked darker in the tryer than it did under light.
I was a bit surprised that I had to use max kPa (~4) at the start given only 250g. Not sure why that have been the case? I started turning it down from about 150°C.
I have no idea what happened in my first roast with my thermocouple but this time I got super smooth non-erratic readings so happy with that.
For other aussies reading, the regulator that Mr Li sends with the stove works with Australian POL connections, you just have to do it up really tight to get gas to flow.
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Looks like your off to a good start! In artisan you can erase "roaster scope" and type in a title. I'd look through the set-up guides in the download section, and try tuning your artisan parameters
Not sure about the 4kPa start, was the roaster cold? If you play around with the damper, it can roast at a much lower (towards closed) setting.
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Here are some of the Artisan documents that Hank is referring to.
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B4HTX5wS3NB2TFVid0h2TGxBWG8&usp=sharing
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Not sure about the 4kPa start, was the roaster cold? If you play around with the damper, it can roast at a much lower (towards closed) setting.
From memory I had the damper about 1/4 open when I turned the fan on ~1 minute in, then opened it up at about 1st crack.
Here are some of the Artisan documents that Hank is referring to.
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B4HTX5wS3NB2TFVid0h2TGxBWG8&usp=sharing
Great thanks I'll take a look.
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If you do not have a method of slowing your fan I would set the damper to 50% and leave it there
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Damper settings are probably machine dependent, that is solid drum vs perforated.
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Hank I'm curious. Using a solid drum and no variac would setting your damper at 50% as Jarnold suggests work?
Or no heat or fan until DE and then 50% until temp reaches 160 and then a setting to slow down and lengthen 1C. I know you advocate beginning slowing down at 140.
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Hi, new here. Just thought i would throw it out there. Anyone that has a huky that they want to sell in australia, im in the market. Hit me up asap. More than likely I will just purchase new, but thought i would ask bedore i pull the trigger. Cheers
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A guy posted on reddit selling his J version from the U.S. But with the price hes offering it for, itd be just as much probably to buy it new from Mr. Li.
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All good, thought I would check before I purchased new. Everyone must be holding on to theirs. I just ordered one with Mr Li. Cant wait! :)