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Pre Purchase / Re: And another checklist to validate…
« Last post by Bunkmil on August 25, 2017, 08:54:02 AM »
Nope. 
Your cooling doesn't need any venting.  All you need for cooling is a sieve and a fan.

Ok thanks! That make sense.

I edited my initial list to add the extra fan and extra funnel.

I think I can now proceed!
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Data Logging / Re: First Roast with Artisan, Feedback Appreciated
« Last post by edtbjon on August 25, 2017, 08:43:40 AM »
Well, Mr Li's instructions are intended for perforated drums which has less mass and thus can take a bit more initial heat.
Check the MillCityRoasters short video on how to calibrate airflow. Then find three markings on your device.
You're absolutely right about that the heat goes up when you rise the airflow a bit. It's true for most parts except when you're in the latter stages with low heat and high air. The flame is running a bit "rich", so the added air makes the burner more effective. This is why I usually lower the heat before rising the air.

The irratic DeltaBT reading may be due to having the laptop plugged in, not vice-versa. You can try adjusting "Smoothing", about which you can read everything in the excellent documentation made by Susan. (It's in the RESOURSES and possibly Downloads section(s). )
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Pre Purchase / Re: And another checklist to validate…
« Last post by SusanJoM on August 25, 2017, 08:39:24 AM »
Nope. 
Your cooling doesn't need any venting.  All you need for cooling is a sieve and a fan.
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Pre Purchase / Re: And another checklist to validate…
« Last post by Bunkmil on August 25, 2017, 07:51:24 AM »

A second tray and fan are used when dropping and cooling the roasted beans.


Thanks for the reply!

Then would I also need a second exhaust bowl to vent outside while cooling ? Or can I just swap the bowl once the beans are dropped ?
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Pre Purchase / Re: And another checklist to validate…
« Last post by Wayneg1 on August 25, 2017, 07:01:45 AM »
Hi there and welcome.

One tray, fan and funnel are used with the exhaust bowl for air flow and expelling smoke.

The other funnel is used when charging with beans.

A second tray and fan are used when dropping and cooling the roasted beans.

Cheers.  :)
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Pre Purchase / Re: And another checklist to validate…
« Last post by Bunkmil on August 25, 2017, 06:02:30 AM »
I see a lot of people also ordering an extra fan and an extra funnel.

May I ask what are the pros of having those extras ? I don't mind adding them to my list but I just don't want to order stuff that I won't be using.
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Data Logging / Re: First Roast with Artisan, Feedback Appreciated
« Last post by MasterKraus on August 25, 2017, 04:42:23 AM »
Hey, thanks, that's super helpful!


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I don't know the size of the roast, but you charge way too high.

I'm glad to confirm about the charge temp. My gut told me it was too high, but was trying to follow this note from one of Kuanho's guides:

"1. Preheat temperature: 250g - 220℃; 300g - 240℃; 400g - 280℃; 500g - 300℃ "

I did roast with a full pound, so will try 350F next time around.   

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I don't know if you have tuned your air speed system yet, but I adjust my air to low - mid - high airflow during these three phases, adjusting the heat before adjusting the fan.

I do have one of those fan controller thingys, so I can tune the air speed. What I found on my first few roasts is that more air actually means more heat? Every time I turned up the fan, it seemed like the ET Delta would rise in conjunction.

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The reason for me wanting to add more energy after charge and towards the middle and later stages of the roast, is that most of the processes in the coffee takes place in those mid and later stages. This is coffee roasting theory, which you will learn while you get experience.

If I follow through your logic here, could I say in broad strokes that part of the theory here is to back off heat/energy as much as possible towards the later stages, so the roast slows down during that time and develops for a longer period of time?

Lastly, after some digging around here on the forum, I think I need to plug in my laptop to settle down the BT reading.

Thanks,

-Chris
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Data Logging / Re: First Roast with Artisan, Feedback Appreciated
« Last post by edtbjon on August 25, 2017, 02:06:24 AM »
The roast looks nice, good declining RoR/deltaBT. You're not rushing it. I guess it will taste decent.

Now for critique, I don't know the size of the roast, but you charge way too high. That wil make you hold back on the burner for the rest of the roast. Burner = heat = energy... I.e the beans gets a hefty kiss of energy when charged into the roaster and then they are just kept slowly changing color. If you charge at say 350F (for a 400g - full pound charge), the initial drop of temperture will be much more dramatic. :o :) That's nothing to worry about, as it's only virtual. Then (I usually wait one minute) hit the burner at full whack, lots of energy going into the beans. When the beans starts to get yellow, I lower the heat to say 2 kPa, aiming for going into first crack at around 1 kPa. (I don't know if you have tuned your air speed system yet, but I adjust my air to low - mid - high airflow during these three phases, adjusting the heat before adjusting the fan.)
The reason for me wanting to add more energy after charge and towards the middle and later stages of the roast, is that most of the processes in the coffee takes place in those mid and later stages. This is coffee roasting theory, which you will learn while you get experience. Don't worry, you'll get there. Again, as you are new to the Huky, it's impressive to being able to balance the heat the way you did, to produce a nice looking roast. :)
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Pre Purchase / Re: Estimated Cost after Mods and Tools For Maintenance etc. etc.
« Last post by edtbjon on August 25, 2017, 01:46:56 AM »
You don't need a big gas tank, as the Huky burner is very efficient. I use a 2kg (4.5lb) small tank in my kitchen and that tank will last for several months. Even a tank in the 20-40lb range is portable, so lugging it in and out of the garage shouldn't be a problem. (A 20lb tank should last at least a year if roasting for yourself and family.)
If you adapt normal precautions, like checking your connections with soapy water now and then, you should be fine with roasting in a garage. If the door is open, the gas should find its way out as its heavier than air.
Just for the fun of it, I just found and ordered a small electronic propane sensor, which I'll hook up to to an Arduino. If you arn't inclined to messing with electronics and programming, there are gas detection devices available online somewhere.
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Data Logging / Re: First Roast with Artisan, Feedback Appreciated
« Last post by MasterKraus on August 24, 2017, 06:45:11 PM »
Nice, I think my image attached anyway, just didn't show in the preview before I posted...
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